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Hugh User is Offline
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08/11/2006 6:31 AM Alert 
I have been using 3.5 since 3/06 with no problems until now. I added a new location and new trip (both took) added my sightings, 2 of which were lifers (the font went bold). I then went to reports and neither one were on my lifelist or state lists. I repeated the entire process many times to no avail.
Hugh
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08/11/2006 7:02 AM Alert 

Hi Hugh,

The answer to this will be in the details.

First, tell me about your two lifers: Observer, bird name & location (tell me the parent(s) of the location)

Then tell me about the setup for your life list report: Observer, location, dates, tax list specified

This set of information should tell us why you don't see them.

Jeff


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Hugh User is Offline
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08/11/2006 5:11 PM Alert 
Hi Jeff,
Observer: Hugh Rose
Birds: Elegant Tern, Least Tern
Location: Malibu Lagoon
Parent: California

Checked both my Life list and my Ca. state list and they did not show, I was the observer.
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08/11/2006 5:15 PM Alert 
My Life list has no filters
ABA North America ic Tax
I am the observer.
I have been using this same format for years and have never had a problem, I go back with you to 1996!
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08/11/2006 6:38 PM Alert 
Hi Hugh,

Are you saying that for you life list report, you are only specifying the Observer? No location and no dates? Like this below.




BTW: you can include screen captures also with the free tool found on the main forum page at the bottom. That captures the screen area you want and then you include them in your post using the Insert Image toolbar button while creating your reply. This does not work with the Quick Reply feature.

Let's stick with just one report for testing purposes.

Also, you mention using the "ABA North America ic Tax". What does "ic" stand for?

If you have sightings for these two birds and they do not show up on this life list report, then perhaps your checklist data is out of date or missing. Do this:

  1. Click on the Advanced toolbar button to view the advanced buttons
  2. Click on the Checklists button to open the Checklist Editor
  3. Select the Thing Checklist tab
  4. Type "Least Tern" into the Thing field. The Location grid below will auto-populate. You should see California in that list. Let me know if you do not.

When you say "Checked both my Life list and my Ca. state list and they did not show, I was the observer.", please tell me exactly how you are producing these (there are several ways in BD to look at life counts and I need to know the exact parameters you are using and how you are doing it). Screen captures would be great.

We will get this solved. There are no known bugs in the Life List calculations/reports. So, it is either in the checklist data or in how you are producing your lists/counts.

Jeff


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Hugh User is Offline
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08/14/2006 10:28 AM Alert 
Hi Jeff

A) Do not know where "ic" came from, ignore it.

B) "Least Tern" did show in California.

C) Parameters:
      Reports
      Lifelist
      ABA with Comments
      Design
      Observer "Hugh Rose"
      Location "ABA Area"
      Preview Print


      Reports
      Checklist
      Things already seen
      Location "California"
      Observer "Hugh Rose"
      Preview Print 


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08/14/2006 10:54 AM Alert 
Hi Hugh,

With my infamous Chester Tester observer, I added a sighting for Least Tern to location California.

I then went to reproduce reports as you did and it worked as expected. Please review my screen shots below and tell me how yours differs.

Please do include screen captures. It is easy and saves typing and misinterpretation. The FAQ on the Forum Instructions page tells you how.

Jeff












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Hugh User is Offline
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08/14/2006 12:33 PM Alert 
Jeff, mine differs in theTaxonomy, it's "ABA world checklist" I do not have "ABA North America 11-2005" in my drop down selection.
I did purchase it with the 3.5 upgrade on 3/28/2006 on your invoice#147663 for $29.00
Hugh
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08/14/2006 1:06 PM Alert 
Posted By Hugh on 08/14/2006 12:33 PM
Jeff, mine differs in theTaxonomy, it's "ABA world checklist" I do not have "ABA North America 11-2005" in my drop down selection.
I did purchase it with the 3.5 upgrade on 3/28/2006 on your invoice#147663 for $29.00
Hugh


Hugh,

To get the tax list your purchased, please see the instructions at Downloads > Tax List Instructions on this website.

"ABA world checklist"? Did you mean "ABA Bird Checklist"?

Are you available to let me on your system and chat with you via the phone today? Do you have a fast internet connection?

Let me know,
Jeff

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Hugh User is Offline
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08/14/2006 1:10 PM Alert 

Yes I am available today, I am on eastern time 3 hours later than you.We have broadband.

330-659-2204
Hugh

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08/14/2006 2:28 PM Alert 
Well - just a couple minutes on Hugh's system did what an hour or two via the forums couldn't on this one. I should have thought of this. What happened is that Hugh's Location performance table (internal database table) had become corrupt. This can happen, for example, if your system crashes while you are editing/adding locations.

Fortunately, the fix is easy. I just added a test location and then deleted it; then closed the Location window, forcing a rebuild of the Location performance table.

All is well now with Hugh's system on this matter.

Jeff

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