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Joe Byrnes User is Offline Posts:42 Veteran Member
02/12/2010 4:58 PM Alert 

I played with Taxonomies/Things/Checklists for the first time today.  I copied my Trees of North America Taxonomy to a new one, and then entered three trees which were missing.  Two went fine. 

The third new thing 'Pagoda Tree' has been giving me trouble.  I got a RTE 3022 after I deleted Pagoda Tree species in Tax Editor, and tried to reenter it.  And for some reason I was getting the Thing named 'Japanese Pagoda Tree' whereas I was calling it just Pagoda Tree (with alias of Japanese Pagoda Tree).   I have been fooling with this for a few hours and it's hard to give a step by step history.

Now, using Rosette Stone I notice that Clements World 2008 and 2008 v6.3.2, after I searched on the Thing 'Pagoda Tree', both show: Scientific Name 'Anachnothera magna pagodarum', Common Name 'Streaked Spiderhunter pagodarum', and Thing Description 'Pagoda Tree'.  I was sometimes getting 'Streaked Spiderhunter pagodarum' earlier when trying to enter 'Pagoda Tree'.  Is there an error in Clements?

I have not touched any taxonomies or used the Thing Editor before I worked with Trees today.  I have screen captures from Rosetta Stone and the RTE Error 3022 which I could email you.

At one point when looking at my Tree Taxonomy, at the top of the taxonomy was a bold red square with the letters  'Pagoda Tree' displayed in bold red letters.

Help.

Thanks,

-Joe

 

jjones User is Offline Posts:5073 Veteran Member
02/13/2010 12:09 PM Alert 

Hi Joe,

Not sure I completely follow you. I can find nothing in Clements that references any thing with the substring 'pagoda'. So if you have such, then you have inadvertently modified your Clements taxonomy. Easily rememdied by deleting the existing one using Tax View and re-importing it.

The fact that you have 'Pagoda Tree' in a red square in Tax View indicates that you added that thing to this tax list but left the species designation blank - thereby making this a genus-level thing in the tax list. Bring it back up in the Tax Editor and complete the classification for it and click Update.

If your goal is to add a new thing (e.g. Pagoda Tree) to your Tree taxonomy, then

  1. make sure the thing exists first; if not, use the thing editor to create it
  2. then use the tax editor to add this thing to the tax list; name, classify and sort it.

That is it in a nutshell.

Jeff


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Joe Byrnes User is Offline Posts:42 Veteran Member
02/13/2010 12:23 PM Alert 
Hi Jeff,

You’re saying I should delete the (entire) existing Clements taxonomy from my system and then re-import the same taxonomy from Birder’s Diary?

I have never messed with taxonomy editing before yesterday, when I copied the Tree taxonomy to my own taxonomy and then modified it. I know I never tried to edit, modify, or do anything to the Clements taxonomy, making me think maybe it is corrupted.

However, I will do as you suggest.

I have a second copy of BD on my laptop and I have not changed anything on that system since January, so I do have Before and After copies of the database.

I no longer have the Red box and I think I fixed it by myself during editing.


Thanks,
-Joe
jjones User is Offline Posts:5073 Veteran Member
02/13/2010 12:28 PM Alert 

Hi Joe,

Before you delete Clements and reimport it - takes 30 minutes to an hour - make sure of your findings that you state above. If you find a pagoda tree referenced in your Clements taxonomy, then you have edited it somehow.

But restoring your second copy of the database only takes a couple minutes - but then maybe you lose your tree taxonomy changes.

Jeff


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Joe Byrnes User is Offline Posts:42 Veteran Member
02/13/2010 3:23 PM Alert 
Jeff,

I restored my laptop BD database to my desktop and, although I lost my editable copy of the Trees of North America taxonomy, everything seems to work. My Clements 6.3.2 database obviously had a corrupted record in it. Since I only added a few missing trees species, no big deal.

One last question - when we see a taxonomy or checklist omission, how should we report it?

As usual, thanks for the fine support.

-Joe
jjones User is Offline Posts:5073 Veteran Member
02/13/2010 6:58 PM Alert 

Hi Joe,

Glad all is good now.

Please report any issues you find in the General forum.

Thanks,

jeff


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