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jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:04 AM Alert 
Hi Graham and John:

I need to make sure.

The Quick Reply option at the bottom of the page when you are viewing posts does not allow attachments.

However, when clicking on one of the Reply or Quote links, you are taken to the Advanced Editor which does have the Message Attachments section beneath the editor.

Can you please confirm that you are clicking on either the Reply or Quote links and not seeing the Message Attachments section. I will include a capture here:







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cjwalton User is Offline Posts:325 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:09 AM Alert 
I confirm that neither the quote or reply links produce the message attachment box on this forum.
John W
jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:19 AM Alert 
Sorry - the attachment thing is fixed now. You should now see the Message Attachments section.

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cjwalton User is Offline Posts:325 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:33 AM Alert 
Yep, It's there!
John
Graham Tebb User is Offline Posts:123 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:44 AM Alert 
Hi all,

Jeff's already had these attachments by e-mail but now that I can post them to the forum, here is a quick summary:

My newly created test user (imaginatively named "Test" - I was having a bad day) went to South Africa and saw an Ostrich, which as he discovered in his dusty field guide could be attributed to the subspecies Struthio camelis australis.  Justifiably proud, he entered the sighting in his brand new copy of Birder's Diary (see attachment 1).

To monitor his progress with ticking off the world's ostriches he then produced an "Africa" checklist by means of the filter (attachment 2) and the result is shown as attachment 3:  the Ostrich is not ticked.

However, when he selects the option to include subspecies, he sees that he has a tick next to Struthio camelis australis although the species itself (i.e. Struthio camelis) has not been ticked.  You'll have to take my word for this, I'm afraid, as I can only attach three screen captures.  But that's easily enough for anybody to lose interest.

Any thoughts, anybody?

Best wishes,

Graham











Graham Tebb User is Offline Posts:123 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:46 AM Alert 

Hi again,

On second thoughts, here are the remaining two attachments.  The final one is particularly entertaining:  how is it possible that a subspecies has been seen when the species itself has not been?

Time for me to take some pills.

Best wishes,

Graham









jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 8:55 AM Alert 
Hi Graham,

I think I know what the problem is. I think you have the same problem as the other user.

Please do this:

1) Open the Locations window
2) add a new location with parent world
3) delete the location
4) close the locations window (long location rebuild occurs)
5) Now try your report.

Sometimes the location performance table can become corrupt. The procedure above (adding a location) forces a rebuild of that table.

Let us know,
Jeff

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Graham Tebb User is Offline Posts:123 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 9:13 AM Alert 

Hi Jeff,

An interesting thought - I'd never have come up with it.  Unfortunately, though, it didn't solve my problem - the reports look identical.

There may be something wrong with my locations table (under WORLD there is now a heading $Orphaned Locations$ that features RYUKYU ISLANDS and SOUTH GEORGIA ISLAND) but the location where my lazy test observer saw his Ostrich (SOUTH AFRICA, Augrabies Falls) upposts to SOUTH AFRICA which in tern upposts to WORLD.

Any other ideas?  If the locations trick cured Nick's problem it sounds as though my database has somehow become corrupted, if not the locations table then something else.

Best wishes,

Graham

jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 9:18 AM Alert 
No problem. Please ZIP your database (c:\program files\birders diary\data\database.mdb) and upload it using the "Support > File Upload" feature on this web site.

Then I can have a look at it on my system and figure the problem out.

Jeff

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Graham Tebb User is Offline Posts:123 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 9:39 AM Alert 
Hi Jeff,

Thanks again. You should have it by now. I'm afraid it's fairly large (20MB zipped) but with luck the mistake will be obvious. My guess is that there is something amiss with the subspecies / species relationships (must be somewhere in the "Things" table) but you know far better than I.

Best wishes,

Graham
jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 10:55 AM Alert 
Ok - well, I guess things have been quite hectic here for the past couple months.

This bug is fixed in 3.6, the version I have been testing this on in my system and why it seems to "amazingly" work well on my system.

Very sorry to be wasting your time and mine! Expect v3.6 out later this week or next.

Jeff

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jjones User is Offline Posts:5332 Veteran Member
08/15/2006 12:52 PM Alert 
Look at it this way. We found a few bugs in the Forum software; tested the File Upload feature.

Jeff

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Graham Tebb User is Offline Posts:123 Veteran Member
08/16/2006 3:46 AM Alert 
Dear Jeff,

You've no idea how pleased I am to find out - for a change - that it wasn't just me doing something stupid. Thanks again for all your help and patience and I look forward to seeing version 3.6.

Best wishes,

Graham
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