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miller.rob User is Offline Posts:241 Veteran Member
07/08/2009 4:32 PM Alert 

Hi Jeff and all:

Here's one I can't wrap my mind around - I recently recented the book "100 Birds To See Before You Die" .

We thought it would be fun to set it up in Birder's Diary to keep track of what we've seen (and where) and what is still needed to see.

But since the birds are from around the world, I can't see how to do it properly. (I've set up a location "100 Birds" under World, and set up a checklist, but can't get a Life List to print properly.

Thanks!

Rob

jjones User is Offline Posts:5100 Veteran Member
07/08/2009 4:47 PM Alert 

Hi Rob,

Very neat idea. I don't know that I would have come up with the Location concept for solving this quickly.

So - Creating "100 birds" location under World is the right thing to do. Now, did you use the Checklist Editor to add the 100 birds to this new location? That is all you have to do. Then you can use the Reports window to print a checklist for that location and have the ones seen checked off.

But for a life list report to work, your sightings of those birds will have to be at that location or a descendant of that location. that of course won't work as it has no descendants; and I don't recommend adding all high-level locations as descendants. Wherein checklist reports are tied to the checklist data, life list reports are not. It is simply a count of species seen, based on the selected tax list, at the specified location and all descendants.

So, to me the simple solution is to use the Checklist report for the new location and have it check off the species already seen, at any location. This won't give you a count of how many seen and how many unseen, you will have to manually count them up, but those seen will be checked off.

Oh - there is another way. Create a new tax list which contains only those 100 birds - call it "100 Birds". Use the Taxonomy Copy feature on the Taxonomy Viewer window to copy those 100 birds from Clements over to the new tax list and now your life list report will work as will most everything else you want to do with those 100 birds. And you don't need the new location you created. I think that is what I would do.

Let us know,

Jeff


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jjones User is Offline Posts:5100 Veteran Member
07/08/2009 4:54 PM Alert 

More info Rob. Instead of using the Taxonomy Copy feature use the Taxonomy Editor to create your new 100 bird taxonomy list. The Copy feature won't work the way you expect.

You would still use the Taxonomy Viewer to create the new tax list. Then use the Tax Editor to add your 100 birds.

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Jeff


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Al Ahlgrim User is Offline Posts:131 Veteran Member
07/09/2009 12:30 AM Alert 

Also, if you can get your 100 birds list into "txt" format, you could import them into your 100 bird taxonomy with a text import and speed things up a bit.  Good Luck, Al

 

jjones User is Offline Posts:5100 Veteran Member
07/09/2009 9:51 AM Alert 
Posted By Al Ahlgrim on 07/09/2009 12:30 AM

Also, if you can get your 100 birds list into "txt" format, you could import them into your 100 bird taxonomy with a text import and speed things up a bit.  Good Luck, Al

 



 

Al - easy for you to say.  The import of user-created tax lists in CSV/txt format is not supported for the average Joe. While you understand how to do it Al, I hesitate to support users in creating a new tax list this way. The supported method is via the Tax Editor. This has to do with licensing issues as well as complexity.

fyi

Jeff


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miller.rob User is Offline Posts:241 Veteran Member
07/09/2009 10:59 AM Alert 

Hey All!

I'm not sure it was the best method, but since I had already created both a location called "100 Birds" and its accompanying checklist, I used BD's Taxonomy Viewer to create an (empty) taxonomic list called "100 Birds Taxonomy".

Still within Taxonomy Viewer, I used my "100 Birds Checklist" as a filter on Clements, and dragged over the 100 remaining birds into "100 Birds Taxonomy".

As I say, I'm not sure if it was the best way, but made me feel like I had not created the location and checklist for no reason.

If anyone has the same book, I'm happy to send them the checklist and taxonomy.

Thanks!

Rob

 

 

jjones User is Offline Posts:5100 Veteran Member
07/09/2009 12:00 PM Alert 

Um, er, Yes - that is what I meant to recommend.

Of course, that would be the quickest way and exactly why I added that feature. It gets used so seldomly that I had forgotten about it.

Way to go Rob!

Jeff


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