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MadeOutOfCats User is Offline Posts:6 Occasional Poster
09/11/2008 5:04 AM Alert 

When I try to add a specific new species to a checklist in “Add” mode, I get the error dialog shown (hopefully) below. When I press OK, the app terminates.

 

I’ve only been using the app for one day (using the evaluation licence), so apologies if this problem has already been reported/resolved, or I’m just making a dumb user error. I’ll try to summarise the steps that get me to this problem (which seems reproducible); again apologies if I get the terminology wrong.

 

  1. I’ve created a new location “Tenerife” with parent “CANARY ISLANDS”.
  2. I’ve created a new trip “Tenerife 1991”. Both the trip and location seem to have been created OK, and I successfully created another location and trip yesterday. (I also added a full set of sightings for that previous trip with no problems.)
  3. I’ve entered “Add” mode, with the settings below, and have successfully entered a few days’ sightings for my “Tenerife 1991” trip.
  4. The CANARY ISLANDS checklist seems to be missing some species that we saw, so I’ve successfully added a few. I did this by clicking the “Add Name” button in the Add window. An example of a (sub-)species that I successfully added is “Common Ringed Plover hiaticula”, which I added by typing “Ringed Plover h” into the “Add Name to Checklist” dialog, then clicking Add.
  5. The problem comes if I type “greenshank n” into the “Add Name to Checklist” dialog. The dialog suggests the name “Common Greenshank nebularia”, which is what I want, but when I click “Add” I get the error dialog and the app terminates.

I just repeated the whole sequence in order to write this summary, and the same thing happened again. (That’s three times in total so far.)

 

I’m running Windows Vista Ultimate on a good spec Dell laptop with 2Gb of RAM and plenty of free disk space.

 

For now I have worked around the problem by changing the Location Filter in the Sightings Entry Setup to be “WESTERN PALEARCTIC”. This lets me enter Common Greenshank (Tringa nebularia), though there don’t seem to be any subspecies listed.

 

Hope that’s all clear. Any help would be much appreciated.









cjwalton User is Offline Posts:319 Veteran Member
09/12/2008 4:34 AM Alert 
Hi
I think this one has to wait for Jeff to return. Running Windows XP I have tried to add several birds to the Canary Islands list using the Checklist editor. All were successsful except Common Greenshank nebularia. However, the program did not crash, it simply did not add the bird to the list although it appeared to have done.
Over to you Jeff
John W
MadeOutOfCats User is Offline Posts:6 Occasional Poster
09/12/2008 4:41 AM Alert 

Thanks John. As I said, I've got a work-around for now, so waiting for Jeff's return is no problem.

Pete

jjones User is Offline Posts:5073 Veteran Member
09/14/2008 7:23 PM Alert 

Hi Pete,

Thanks so much for the detailed instructions and screen shots. Sure makes my job easier to help.

I was able to reproduce the problem. Found it and will have it fixed in v3.7. The problem is that "Common Greenshank nebularia" is not in use by Clements 08. BD should not crash in this instance but inform you of that fact.

Your solution is to simply enter the scientific name you want, in this case Tringa nebularia into the ADD dialog. Then your bird will be added to your current checklist. "Common Greenshank nebularia" is an internal thing identifier for a bird that is not in use by Clements 08. In all of the name fields in BD, you can use scientific or common names in each instance.

The permanent adjustment to this is to add these missing species to the location "Canary Islands" using the Checklist Editor (Checklists toolbar button after clicking on the Advanced toolbar button).

  1. Enter Clements 08 into the Taxonomy field
  2. Click the Set buton
  3. Enter "Canary Islands" into the Location field
  4. Click the Load button
  5. Type the name of the thing you want to add to this location (e.g. Common Greenshank or Tringa nebularia)
  6. Press ENTER on your keyboard and it will search for it in the current list; if not found in the current list, then the ADD button will be highlighted as the default. So press ENTER again to Add this to the current list. (Or you can simply manually click on the buttons to search and add, instead of using the ENTER key.)
  7. Repeat steps 5 & 6 for each new bird to add.
  8. Click the Update button when done to save your changes

Now when you bring up the ADD (Checklist style) entry window for Canary islands, it will have your species that you know do exist there. With no need for you to add them each time you are on that window.

Let me know if I can assist with anything else.

Jeff


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MadeOutOfCats User is Offline Posts:6 Occasional Poster
09/15/2008 2:12 PM Alert 
Thanks Jeff. My "paper" Clements is the 5th Edition, and I hadn't realised that the current version has no subspecies for Common Greenshank. Live and learn!

I've successfully updated my checklists, thanks. I have a few questions about using specific taxonomies, but I want to get a bit more experience with the program before posting them. Hopefully most of the questions will go away as I learn the app.

Thanks again.

Pete
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